Memories with a beat

Digging into why songs matter...

I started this podcast mistakenly. I was in a course where I was supposed to start a podcast about being a podcast manager. But, oops, I started one about my passion, music! It is the best mistake I've made!

Through all the interviews I have gained such an appreciation for music, the creation process, and how music really affects people. My guests pick a song they have strong memories associated with. Now I remember what they shared when I hear the songs we discussed.

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Podcast episode artwork for “When Doves Cry” featuring music journalist and author James Campion, alongside the cover of his book Revolution: Prince, the Band, the Era.

Ep. 19 S5 When Dove's Cry with James Campion

October 09, 20254 min read

When James Campion first heard “When Doves Cry” in the summer of 1984, he was 21 and already deep into music as both a fan and performer. But nothing prepared him—or the rest of his band—for what they heard on the radio that week. It was weird. There was no bassline. The guitar screamed with fuzz, the drum machine pounded in a way that felt mechanical yet emotional, and Prince’s voice—processed and layered—hovered over it all like something not quite human.

James didn’t talk about it right away. Not until he was sitting in a car with his new guitar player, John, who casually plunked out the melody on a tiny Casio keyboard. “Holy crap, you know that?” James asked. The song had only been out for a week, but it was already spreading fast. That same day at rehearsal, everyone in the band admitted they’d been quietly obsessed with it too. It became a musical rite of passage—shared, talked about, analyzed. “Have you heard ‘When Doves Cry’? Did you catch the Mozart-style piano run? Did you notice it has no bass?”

Prince's decision to remove the bassline was, at the time, unthinkable. But it worked. And for musicians like James, it challenged what a pop song could even be. That fascination stuck with him through the decades, and in this episode, he reflects on how the track never stopped revealing something new.

James is the author of Revolution: Prince, the Band, the Era, a book that explores Prince’s career, cultural impact, and the creative risks that shaped his legacy. During the episode, James shares three paragraphs from the book that describe “When Doves Cry” in vivid, layered prose—unpacking its symbolism, its sonic tension, and the emotional storm it carries. He describes the opening as a “distorted ode to Hendrix,” and calls the drum programming a kind of “funk fugue,” drawing comparisons to Bach in both structure and intensity.

Released in 1984, When Doves Cry was the lead single from Purple Rain, the soundtrack to Prince’s semi-autobiographical film of the same name. The song spent five weeks at number one on the Billboard Hot 100 and became one of Prince’s biggest hits. Purple Rain, both the album and film, catapulted Prince from rising star to global icon. The album blended rock, funk, R&B, and pop, earning Prince two Grammy Awards and an Oscar for Best Original Song Score. With over 25 million copies sold worldwide, Purple Rain is still considered one of the greatest albums of all time.

James reflects on how the Purple Rain album was his entry point, but it was hearing the title track on a late-night solo drive that truly hooked him. Exhausted and sweaty after a gig, he tuned in just as a quiet DJ announced “a new song by Prince.” What followed was a moment he describes as out-of-body—and from that point forward, he was a Prince disciple.

Prince’s lyrics in “When Doves Cry” are full of metaphor—images like “animals strike curious poses” and “why do we scream at each other” are more poetic than literal. James points out that Prince wasn’t just pushing sonic boundaries, he was also layering in ideas about vulnerability, family trauma, and identity. The song’s central line—"this is what it sounds like when doves cry"—turns a symbol of peace into one of tension and heartbreak.

James dove deep into Prince’s liner notes and production style. Known for his control over every element of his music, Prince often wrote, produced, arranged, and played all the instruments himself. On Purple Rain, however, his band The Revolution contributed heavily—but Prince still oversaw the entire vision, from music to visuals to storytelling. James recalls being fascinated by how he brought together spirituality, sexuality, and social themes, and how his band—diverse in race and gender—mirrored that message.

Though James chose “When Doves Cry” for this podcast, he admits that other songs, like “Hey Jude” by The Beatles, carry even more personal weight. But “When Doves Cry” keeps resurfacing. Not necessarily as a comfort song, but as a creative marker—a track that reminds him what’s possible when an artist breaks the rules.

Listening to it now, James says he still finds new details he’d missed before. And after all these years, the song continues to serve that dual purpose that only the best art can: it takes you back, while also showing you something new.

When Doves Cry (The Song)

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Tiffany Mason

Tiffany Mason grew up in the midwest but now enjoys beautiful days in the Sunshine State of FL. She has been a podcast manager for 4 years, starting her company Virtually You! and enjoys helping business podcasters get their episodes out consistently on the airwave. Tiffany has always loved music so when she was tasked with starting a podcast naturally she chose to create one about music and how music affects us by learning other's connections to a song they choose to discuss. And that podcast is Memories With a Beat!

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